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June 28, 2008

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DANGO  TUMMA

any southern cameroons article publish by camnet or cameroon tribune must never been publish , since its the devils, enemy side of the story. i am suprise diussi is repeating what the enemy is propagandaing.
EML (DR) BEIING DIBUSII TRIBEMENS WAS AN INTELLECTUAL, A REAL STAESMAN, A MAN OF HI PEOPLE, HIS VIEW WAS RATHER THE COMPLETE INDEPENDENCE OF SOUTHERN CAMEROON ASD THE FORST OPTION BUT IF THAT FAILED, HE OPTED RATHER FOR A UNION WITH NIGERIA, NOT AS A NIGERIA . SOO DIBUSSI YOU BETTER NOT ONLY READ WAS THE FROGS ARE TELLING YOU, I KNOW YOUR GENERATION IS SOO ROMANTICALLY DRAW TO THE SIDE OF THE STORY , BUT READ REAL SOUTHERN CAMEROONS HISTORY, BY SOUTHERN CAMEOONIANS AND NO BOBY ELSE.

DANGO  TUMMA

I WANT TO MAKE A CORRECTION TO THE ARTICLE
ITS UNIFICATION NT REUNIFICATION
ITS INDEPENDECE NOT SECESSION
ITS SOUTHERN CAMEROONS, NOT ANGLOPHONE
SOUTHERN CAMEROON AND LA REPUBLIQUE DU CAMEROUN HAVE NEVER INTHE HISTORY OF AFRICA BEEN ONE COUNTRY

Samka

Dango Tumma,
This is Mola Dibussi Tande's personal blog.He has an unequivocal right to publish whatever he wants on his blog.Oh yes,dat's his God given freedom.Why are u surprised?Those u consider "enemy" aren't necessarily so to Dibussi.U have the liberty to express your views,leave others to have theirs.

Nomatter how much u recite history and twist it to suit your whims and caprices,there's no way secession will thrive in Cameroon and in Africa,not in the 21st century when there's an unprecedented and heightened awareness of the need for Africa to unite.Keep living in dreamland.

The Southwesterner

Our generation is faced now with another challenge : "To Re-invent the Cameroons". For that to happen, this present band of Makakas ,smooth criminal elites: Francophone and their Anglophone collabos should be forced to vanish through any means available.The Cameroons will never strive until this noble objective is achieved. This elites are our enemies. This elites, the nouveau rich are the stumbling block to reinventing our Cameroons.

Whether Endeley was right or wrong in his predictions, one thing is clear, the battle for the soul of the Cameroons would not be won through breaking the Cameroons into pieces as some weak hearted are suggesting. Those men and women, that elitist clique of smooth criminals in ties and suits, our so called civilised monkeys should be forced through any means available to let go their stranglehold on the Cameroons. That is the real issue to focus on.

Ma Mary

You will eventually discover that you are wrong, Southwesterner. La republique people and leadership even of the best kind do not recognize our distinct needs and rights. This kind of idealism for unity based on equality is a Southern Cameroonian delusion. When (if ever) la republique throws off the shackles of the francafrique sponsored predators that you describe, the people who take their place will play the same power games against us. We have looked into their eyes as we discuss our concerns, and they do not mean us well.

A free Southern Cameroons is not in contradiction with African unity. A unity of free people is superior to coercive unity. Europe took a whole millenium to learn that fact. Europe united by discussion and free will in the last 50 years and not by the dictates of the Caesars, Charlemagne, Napoleon, Hitler etc.

Samka

Ma Mary,

Europe became united bc it came to the realisation that a strong and united Europe was of utmost importance and urgent if it had to survive and retain its influence on the globe,in a world which had tremendously transformed since the end of WWII.If it had to stand as a buffer against the "Red Fear" from the East,against US dominance in world affairs and regain influence over its former colonies through more subvert and covert means.

Europe forged to consolidate its unity even at a time when the wounds that were laid bare by Fascism were still very fresh and deep and most European states had been weakened by the scorch of war.Individual states had to sacrifice internal disputes at the alter of European unity bc that was the supreme goal,the "sumum bonum".It was a matter of survival.

The visionary Osagyefo said it,"African Unity at all cost,African unity inspite of ourselves,African unity".AFRICAN UNITY INSPITE OF OURSELVES.The urgency of the moment is African unity.Throughout history the negro has failed to identify his real enemy and the latter thrives and prospers.Sudan isn't the foe to Chad,Eritrea isn't a foe to Ethiopia,Rwanda isn't Congo's enemy,Biafra isn't Nigeria's foe,SADR isn't Morrocco's enemy,Southern Cameroons isn't "La Republique's foe".

AFRICAN UNITY INSPITE OF OURSELVES.The urgency of the moment is to tamper our differences and turn our 'guns' against Africa's enemies.Even on the birth of independent Africa,when many states couldn't even stand on their feet,the Osagyefo warned that the need for African unity is primodial and so urgent and has to be expediently persued like a child that starts walking without creeping.If not we shall never even attain our own indidvidual objectives.

The territorial boundaries we are fighting over today,were put in place by colonialism.The linguistic divides we instrumentalise to tear ourselves apart today are alien to us.It is shocking that in the 21st cent,half a cent after independence,some people still call themsel-ves "BRITISH SOUTHERN CAMEROONIANS".Ironical in that we want to achieve independence by crying at the doorsteps of the same people that have held us under colonial bondage and that have every interest in keeping us in serfdom.He who dreams that it's at 10 Downing Street or at the Elysée or at the White House that we shall resolve our problems has a serious problem.We go to the Whiteman to help divide and antagonise us.Our problems shall be resolved only under our baobab trees.Until we learn this,we shall continue in this vicious cycle of suffering.

Kossovo will not happen in Africa,never bc the powers that superintend the world have different rules for different peoples.And they apply at their leisure to serve their whims and caprices.What separates us as Africans is too small and insignificant as to what unites us.There's no Southern Cameroons or La République du Cameroun,there's Africa,there's no Eritrea or Ethiopia,there's Africa,there's no SADR or Morrocco,there's Africa;there's not even an SADC or ECCAS or ECOWAS or CEMAC,there's AFRICA.

Southern Cameroons shall never become independent until Africa is truely liberated and UNITED.GOD SAVE AFRICA.

The Southwesterner

Ma Mary i am sure you can read between the lines. Samba, that was great. I a citizen of the Cameroons do not have any trouble whatsoever with anyone trying to defend the interest of any part of the Cameroons. Its justified. Its part of The Cameroons soul searching. Infact there is nothing wrong in choosing to define your own identity in a New-New Cameroons.But i just dont buy that cheap notion that our enemies are our brothers East of the Mungo. The Cameroons Union Nationalist from the both sides of the Mungo resisted foreign trespassers just to ensure the Cameroons dream prevailed. The fact that they were overwhelmed and a group of elites were imposed on us till this day is all the reason why we must hold our nerves and identify the stumbling block to our emergence.
Ma Mary, despite the setbacks, i strongly still believe a Cameroon model is possible. We could be called a minority or whatever, depending on how we define a minority. But i am sure you could still remember the finest hours of the Sdf,a Former West Cameroon creation. For me that finest and proudest period was the 1997 legislative election Campaign. Why? because the Sdf ran its best election Campaign. The way the Federation agenda was sold to Francophones was beautifully done. The Central Theme of that Campaign was the federal agenda. Oh yes, i did follow carefully the individual campaigns of Sdf francophone aspirants in Douala and the Littoral as a whole and guess what, they were the ones convinicng the electorate of the beauty of Devolution a la manier Anglosaxon. Cameroonians West of the Mungo still got what it takes to bring the necessary dynamism to a New- New Cameroon. I am sure Ma Mary would agree with me that no group of people in the Cameroons were and are better prepared and organised as Cameroonians West of the Mungo in the event of an eventual constitutional conference.
Our elites, the chosen few, the smooth criminals,agents of Neocolonialism are our enemies. They indirectly control almost every aspect of our lives. Even the mobile phones we communicate on , the networks we use are in the hands of this bunch and their big brother shareholders. Infact this civilised baboons are the favourite species their colonial masters prefer they govern us. This is The Cameroons biggest challenge, neutralising this forces once and for all.

DANGO  TUMMA

utter rubbish, you dare, say its soe one private blog, is that the french imported reasoning?
no such thing exist s apersonal blog. in the public broadband. you want private blog, scribble it on your toilet
tissue and bury it under your mattress.ASK FOR THIS SAMBA AND SOUTHWESTERN IDIOTS, I WILL SAY MA MARY DONT ANSWER THEM, THEY ARE LIKE THE BEHIND OF A GOAT. EVE AS UNPO, AND UN ARE DEATING THE INDEPENDENCE OF SOUTHERN CAMEROONS, SOME PREFER TO LIVE IN DENIAL AND SELF DELUSION.

Samka

Dango Tumma,

It's of no essence throwing invectives at people.It won't help u nor anybody in anyway.We're debating,we aren't in a War room.You know,one of the biggest shortcomings with the negro is that we talk too much but we don't debate ideas.And dat's why conflicts are sprouting everywhere in Africa bc nobody wants to listen,we want to always impose our opinions on others.Democracy entails taking each persons opinion into account nomatter how divergent that opinion is from ours.The very countries we look upon as models today were built on mutual consensus.

That aside,as much as a driver would look at the rear view to see behind him,he nevertheless must look at the windscreen to drive ahead safely.The world has tremendously evolved since the advent of independence and especially in the last two decades.Our countries are facing challenges that are so complex and so diverse than ever before.As the world is increasingly and rapidly globalising,there's an urgent need for us Africans to unite to face the challenges of our times.And we need to do dat very expediently lest we are caught behind,exploited and our continent "viciously raped" as it has been for centuries.Europeans,Americans,Asians are already thinking as one people,we must think as one people and provide our own solutions to our problems.

And that entails building strong and viable political,economic and social blocks in Africa which will eventually lead to a United Africa.This means we need to lift our heads and look at the changing times and identify our true enemies.Bc the real enemy in Cameroon isn't the Franophones or "La République"(which ever way u want),the real enemy is the criminal cabal at Etoudi propped up by France and a host of western nations.That is our veritable and time honoured foe.

And that's where u don't understand Dango Tumma like many other of our African brethren.I am completely in tandem with Southwesterner's reasoning.I didn't say that the Southern Cameroons isn't a cause worth persuing.Infact,it is a very legitimate cause.History has recorded it and nobody can deny that its a noble cause.But what am saying is that while it is a noble cause,while it is a legitimate cause,we as a people can still resolve the root cause of our problems within the Cameroon entity.And that our true enemies aren't those on the other side of the Mungo.

Again,taking the problem to the UN,EU or the UNPO or all these Western 'Njangi groups' is like a school boy who after haven been thrashed by a bully,goes back to the bully to complain.What do u expect from that bully,he will give that school boy the thrashing of his life.And the school boy shall forever remain in that vicious cycle.

The history of secession movements in Africa has been to say the least very poor.And taking a look at the sprinkling of c'ntries(can't even name two,safe for Eritrea) that were borne out of secession,the cost in human and material damage has been overwhelming.And he who thinks the Southern Cameroons shall secede by arguing and writing petitions should be mentally retarded.Africa is wary and tired of conflicts.Let's turn our 'guns' against our real enemies.

Recently,Kenya went through the greatest political upheaval in its recent history which almost brought the country to the frontiers of civil war.It was through the auspices of the African Union(AU) and SADC that a negotiated settlement was arrived at.Zimbabwe is presently averting a political crises that can plunge the country into civil war,thanx to the auspices of the Southern African Development Community(SADC) and AU.It was Mandela who negotiated a peaceful transition of power from Mobutu to Kabila and not some western diplomat.Let's sit down like our forebears used to do,dialogue under the baobab tree and seek solutions to our problems.

This attitude of always running to the whiteman to resolve our problems without looking for African solutions to our problems is what I am vehemently against.Bc we shall never solve our problems.And if we donot hit the doors of our regional and continental organisations,they shall not be conscious of our problems and so they will not be able to strengthen their capacity to resolve conflicts.

And as Africa strives to fulfill the vision of the Osagyefo,and I know we as a people shall fulfill that vision(though time isn't on our hands),are we then saying that we shall secede now to eventually UNITE tomorrow?


DANGO  TUMMA

sanka you are late, we have heard this rubbish before, from your camerounese new
colonizers, they say, we southern cameroonians shouldnt take , our rightful independence qest to the African
court of human rights, that we shouldnt, go the UN, , we shoulndt go to the EU, MY question TO YOU SMAL SKULL SAMKA IS, EXCEPT THE COLONIZER HAVE
SOMETHING EVIL TO HIDE, WHY WOULD HE BE
PREVENTING US FROM SHOWING TO THE WORLD TRHE EVIL THE BEFALLS US?
SANKA, YOU ARENT NOT SMARTER NOR EDUCATED THAN ANY OF US, WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING, AND WE DONT NEED YOUR USELESS ADVICE. KEEP THAT FOR THE TOUPOURRIS, WE ARE THE GENTLEMEN THAT DESCENDED FROM THE ENDELEYS, GENERATION,

YO HAVE A BUCKE FULL OF ADVICES,TAKE THEM
TO THE CAMEROUNESE GOVERNMENT OF KING PAUL BIYA.

Samka

For your info Dango Tumma,I am a Southern Cameroonian and I know much about the so called Liberation Mov'ts better than u think.hese so called Liberation Mov'ts are skeletal outfits with nothing to offer.They are even worst than the existing political parties in Cameroon.These are money making machines geared towards making money from assylum seekers abroad.

You guys want to seccede,to carry out a gigantic mission as such but u're incapable for decades today to put down a comprehensive,coercive and revolutionary ideology to which atleast the majority of "Southern Cameroonians" can adhere to.For decades today,u guys are as divided and as confused as the tentaces of an octopus.SCNC,Ambozonia,SCYL,British Southern Cameroons etc etc.This is a clear indication that even if a "Southern Cameroons" is born today it will be seriously weakened by internal squabbles leaving room for external interference.

When I read what u write above,I feel pity for even the so called Southern Cameroons cause.Nobody stops u from going to all those 'Njangi groups' u have mentioned above safe for the African court of human Rights.U didn't read what I wrote above Dango Tumma.I said dat u will NEVER,NEVER,NEVER I mean NEVER get a free Southern Cameroons by going to knock at the door of the White man.Bc they will instrumentalise and use u to further weaken our resolve to build a United Africa.

Nobody stops u from going to cry at the doorsteps of the EU,UN or writing a million petitions to diplomatic missions abroad as u guys have been doing since the early 90's till date.This is 'collective naivity'.Where in the world and particularly in Africa has seccession succeeded by petition writing or demonstratios at diplomatic missions?

Dango Tumma,rest assured,u shall meet people like me and many of us on ur way to seccession.Even with all their justified arguments seccession failed in America,close to us in Nigeria and it shall fail in Cameroon.Not in this 21st century when we're struggling to build strong regional and continental blocs that will help propel Africa unto the World stage.

Cameroon shall be one and indivisible.Let's sweat and spill our blood against Western Imperialism and build a United,Federal and Democratic Cameroon while marching forward with our heads high towards African Unity.WHAT SEPARATES US IS TOO SMALL AS TO WHAT UNITES US.


DANGO  TUMMA

samka. i know you are camerounese, but we are not camerounese, we are southern cameroonians, this is a seperate ,and distinct country under illegal occupation, the UNPO, AND THE UN HAVE SAID THAT ONLY THE DECOLONIZATION OF 7M SOUTHERN CAMEROONS, WITH GUARANTY OUR DIGNITY, GREEDOM, AND DESTINY FULLYINOUR HANDS, WELL EVERY RIGHT THINKING INDIVIDUAL KNOWS THAT TO BE TRUE, EXCEPT FOR SOME MONKEY SKULL LIKE SMAK, THE CAMEROUNESE WHO REFUSES STUBBORN FATS OF HISTORY.

WHETHER SAMKA, SOUTHWESTERNER LIKE IT OR NOT GODS WILL , WILLBE FULFILL, LET MY PEOPLE GO. AND WE WILL REACH THE PROMISE LAND OF FREEDOM AND SIT ON TH HIGH TABLE ANDDNE ALONG SOUVEREIGN NATIONS ATTHE UNITED NATIONS. YOU BTER TAKE YOUR INSULTING. AND LOW PAID PRIMITIVE STORIE TO YOUR CAVES, IN CAMEROUN, NOT IN MY SOUHERN CAMEROONS.

DANGO  TUMMA

SAMKA. I HATE YOU, I WILL SHOOT YOU WITHOUT THINKING TWICE, DO YOU KNOW WHY?

SEE, CAMEROUN, GO TO THE WHITEMAN (FRANCE) TO GET WEAPONS, TO COLONISE AND RAPE MY COUNTRY (SOUTHERN CAMEROONS) WHATS RONG IF SOUTHERN CAMEROONS GO TO THE WHITEMAN
TO THROW OFF THE SHACKLES OF SLAVERY?
YOU SAID , YOU KNOW ALOT ABOUT FREEDOM
FIGHTERS AND LIBERATION MOVEMENT, BUT WHICH MOVEMENT HAVE SUCEEDED IN HISTORY, WITHOUT GETTING SUPPORT FROM ABROAD< WHITE,BLACK OR YELLOW MAN?
YOU SEE, YOU ARE A VERY EVIL HAERTED MAN,ACCORDING TO YOU ITS OK, FOR SOUTHERN CAMEROONS TO CONTINUE LIVING IN SLAVERY.
IN THE PRETEXT THAT YOU WANT A UNITED AFRICA. BUT THE AFRICAN UNION CHARTER, SAID
COLONIALISATION IS ILLEGAL, AND THE BOUNDARIES OF ALL AFRICAN NATIONS , GOT AT INDEPENDENCE ARE SACCROSANCT. SOO. WHY DONT YOU SEE THIS EVIL, NAZI, APPARTHEID STATE CALL CAMEROUN FOR WHAT IT IS?

SINCE YOU ARE EVIL AS THM YOU WONT SE ANY THING WRONG, THAT WHY YOU MUST STOP WRITING HERE. YOU ARE A WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT.

DANGO  TUMMA

samka you are new, pleae log to the scnc
or the unpo website, and see why southern cameroons case in going to the security council in the UN. AND WHEN THE UN PASS A RESOLUTION CALLING FOR PAUL BIYA TO CALL BACK ITS ILLEGAL ADMINISTRATION AND MILITARY, THEN YOU WIL UNDERSTAND THAT NO MOUTH WASHING OF YOURS WILL HELP AND NO BODY IS ABOVE THE LAW.
I BET YOU ALREADY HAVE MY AK 47 S IN MY HOUSE IN MAMFE, ITS IDIOT LIKE YOU , WHO LIVE THEIR HOMES VILLAGES IN PEAE AND COME DISTURBING MY GRAN FATHERS BEAUTIFUL LAND IN VICTORIA, BUEA, TIKO, WHO I WILL BE GLAD THE FIRE AT ON A GLANCE.
YOUR VILLAGES IN DCHANG, YAOUNDEM NGAONDERE ETC TOUPOURI COUNTRIES ARE ROTTING, YOU COME FOUND HEAVEN ON MY LAND, I WILL TEACH A SOUND LESSON, , JUST WAITING FOR THE UN TO PASS THAT RESOLUTION.

YOU NOT ONLY WILL BE CHASE OUT, ALL OF YOU BANDTS MUST BE TRIED IN LA HAGUE, AND HANG FOR YOUR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

Samka

Mr. Dango Tumma,

When u are engaged in a public debate especially in an interactive medium of communication such as this,pls endeavour to(1)check ur spellings n phrases by using the appropriate semantics(2)be coherent n chronoligical n try to develop ur argument as u go along (3)abstain from invectives or threats,its of no consequence(4)ur arguments sh'ld be based on reason n not on emotional hypes.A novice in Cam. politics while reading what u've scribbled above will go back with a very tainted impression of those who carry the mantle of Southern Cam's secession mov'ts.Isn't your motto:THE FORCE OF ARGUMENT AND NOT THE ARGUMENT OF FORCE ?.As an engaged emissary of the Southern Cams. cause(which I believe u're) u should've learned by now how to develop a successful debate.Or haven't they tutored u guys on how to develop a convincing "argument" for the last 2 decades?

Bc "arguments" have been the only weapons u guys have had for the last 2 decades,ur mov'ts should've by now developed a comprehensive programme for training its activists on how to win over people to its cause.And even the pathetic manner in which some of u recite history is evidence of how negligent u guys have been in educating ur activists and the larger public on the very historical facts u guys bank on to advance ur case for secession.Thereby defeating the very essence or raison d'etre of ur mov'ts.Engaging in a battle without furnishing all of ur soldiers with the necessary armament is tantamount to collective suicide.

Samka

Le Cameroun resteras un et indivisible

DANGO  TUMMA

i am not surpirise.
THOSE CAME NO GO FROGS WHO CAME AND HIDE AMONGST US. IN VICTORIA, BUEA, MUTENGENE AND KUMBA , ALWAYS CLAIM THERE ARE SOUTHERN CAMEROONIANS, AFTER ALL, WE HAVE THOUGHT THOUGHT THEM A FEW ENGLISH WORD.
BUT AGAIN I WANNA WARN YOU SAMKA, AND THE SOO CALLED SOUTHWESTERNER, THERE IS NO SOUTHWEST NOR NORTH WEST IN SOUTHERN CAMEROONS. SOO WHEN EVER YOU SAY THINGS LIKE SOUTHWESTERNER WE ALREADY KNOW YOUR IDENTITY, YOU CANT HIDE ANY MORE AND CONTINUE YOUR EVILS , WE MUST CHASE YOU AND KILL ALL OF YOU , WE MUST CASTRATEM YOU, WE MUST HANG YU UPSIDE DOWN AND SET SMOKE FIRE BENEATH YOU AS PINISHMENT FOR WHAT THIS SATANIC RACE OF FOREST FOREST NEGROES FROM THE EQUOTORIAL FOREST OF CNTRAL AFRICA, ALIN BEEINGS HAVE COME. WE MUST HATE THESE PEOPLE TO THE CORE OF OUR EARTS, WE CANNOT DINE WITH OUR ENEMIES AND PRETEND TO LOVE FREEDOM AND MODERNITY. WE MUST MAKE IT KNOWN STARK CLEAR TO THESE BANDITS THAT SOUTHERN CAMEROONS , THEY ARE UNWELCOME.

ONLY THEN, WILL THE LINE BE DRAWN ON THE SAND, AND WHEN LIGHT IS SHOWN, WE CAN SEE THEIR EVIL DARK NAKED EYES FULL OF MISCHIEFS, THEY CAMEROUNESE FRENCH NEGROES, MUST BE KILLED

AND BRITISH SOUTHERN CAMEROONS MUST BE INDEPENDENT BY ANY MEANS.

Samka

Mr Dango Tumma,

Just take a long look at what u scribbled above.It's to say the least pathetic and childish.
This is the naivity and daydreamer syndrome that characterises seccession advocates.

You are the very people who promote xenophobia by tagging your brothers from the NW,"cam-no-go" and stigmatising them as people who come to take your jobs,women and most of all your lands in the SW.Your use of this term has betrayed u Dango Tumma?It's evidence of the fact that u're prone to using it to stigmatise graffi and bamileke people who have bought all your lands in Mamfe and driven u guys into the forest.

Well,u wanna get into the macquis, fine,first of all,come out of ur comfort zone and quit making noise on ur laptop and leave ur airtight bedroom abroad,come back to Cameroon(bc am sure u're in the diaspora)and then when u're coming don't 4 get how the macquis was crushed in Cameroon in the 60's and 70's.

I know u're an "Internet General",Dango Tumma and I respect u for that but lest u 4get an IG isn't a military rank.Pls don't be foolish to carry ur brave heartedness on the internet and substitute it for fire power.That's just a brother's advise to u.

I challenge u to start by sampling Southern Cams opinions on whether they prefer Seccession or Federalism.I bet u will be shocked to realise how unpopular secession is.Though we all agree that we are marginalised,disenfranchised,segregated against,exploited etc etc,many still believe in a workable solution to our problems in Cameroon.And as soon as the criminal cabal at Etoudi is kicked out and real democracy installed,even u Dango Tumma will come out from your macquis on the internet and embrace your brothers on the other side of the Mungo and work out your heart out for a United Africa.

Don't tell me ur heart wasn't secretly beating for the Lions during their debacle in the ACN in Ghana.That would be merciless lie.

A UNITED,STRONG,DEMOCRATIC AND FEDERAL CAMEROON FOR A UNITED AFRICA.


DANGO  TUMMA

samka. you dont belong here.
just what do you call secession/
since when did southern camerooons became
a province of la republique du cameroun(legally speaking)?

PLEASE LOG TO TFT, THE FRONTIER TELEGRAPGH
THE SITE IS ON THE RIGHT TOP OF THIS VERY DIBUSSI BLOG AND READ WHAT THE UN, UNPO IS SAYING ABOUT OUR COUNTRY BRITISH SOUTHERN CAMNEROONS, FOR THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO WILL GIVE US OUR INDEPENDENCE AFTER WE HAVE STARTED THE INDEPENDENE WAR.

YOUS IS JUST NAIVE AND FULL OF CAMEROUNESE PROPAANDAS.

DANGO  TUMMA

SECESSION IS NOT EQUAL TO INDEPENDENCE
INDEPENDENCE IS WHAT SOUTHERN CAMEROON WANT, NOT SECESSION.

LTTORAL , WESTERN, CENTRAL CAMEROUNESE PROVINCES CAN SECEDED BUT SECESSION IS A WRONG WORD IF DUMB SKULL SAMKA THE BAMILEKON FROM DSCHAND, BARE FOOTED LOW PAID APPLIED TO SOUTHERN CAMEROONS.

SINCE WE HAVE NEVER BEEN PART OF THIS AFRICAN STATE IN HISTORY. EVEN AT THE TIME O THEIR INDEPENDENCE FROM FRANCE.
THE PLESBISITE VOTE OF 1961 WERE POSTED AS VOTING TO BECAME INDEPENDENCE

NOT VOTING TO BECAME A PROVINCE, NO ONE WOULD VOTED. THATS WHY ENDELLEY AND THE REST STORMED OUT OF THE NIGERIAN EASTERN HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY, IN 1959, BECAUSE THEY ALL WANTED INDEPENDENCE FOR OUR BELOVE COUNTRY (SOUTHERN CAMEROONS) SAMKA THE DOG ,YOU BETTER READ OUR HISTORY BEFORE

CAMING HERE TO URINATE INPUBLIC SAYING
ROTTING STUFF, WE ARE DIFFERENCE BECAUSE WE ARE DIFFERENT. GET IT

GET ME LIBERTY ,OR GIVE ME DEATH.

I MUSR CASTRATE DOGS LIKE YOU WHERE EVER I FIND THEM.

Samka

Mr Dango Tumma,

I am prepared to enter a pact even with Lucifer to keep Cameroon united,Yes.And even if it means using "extreme force" or be in support of it for Cameroon to remain united,I shall not blink an eye,nor have any regrets.Quote me anytime,anywhere.And u're going to meet people like me on ur road to seccession or independence,call it whatever even if u're my blood brother.

Bc I've lifted my head up n come to the full realisation that what divides us is too small as to what unites us bc we're sons and daughters of Africa.

I've lifted my head up n I've been able to identify our veritable n time honoured foe.Our enemy is western imperialism not the francophones on the other side of the Mungo bc they're also victims of western conspiracy against the blackman of Africa.

I've lifted my head up n come to the conclusion dat there's a place for everyone under the Cameroon sky n dat the probs Cam is facing 2day can be resolved within a Federal framework.

I've lifted my head up and realised that the root cause of our antagonisms stem from western manipulation and interference and that the territorial boundaries n linguistic divides we instrumentalise to destroy each other are all vestiges of colonialism and neocolonialism.

I've thrown my eyes on the rear view of history and seen the Tikars,the Bantus,the Fangs,Fulani,Kirdi,Dualas etc living in mutual bliss before Hanno the Carthaginian,set out on his "civilising mission" to "bring light to the people's of the Dark continent".

I've fast forwarded time rite up to our epoch and seen the heightened desire of all our African peoples wary of disunity,conflicts,wars,disease,poverty and longing to live in unity to face the challenges of a rapidly growing global village.

I've seen a p'ple eager to throw off the shackles of neocolonialism n an emotionally compromised past n have expressed their enthusiasm for a United Africa.

I've seen a p'ple who're now conscious that their destinies are inextricably bound n tied in a single garment of Unity.That the Whiteman has never meant them well n has every reason to see them disunited,weakened n belligerent.

I've seen a p'ple who're increasingly resolving their discords under their baobab trees and turning to their regional and continental bodies for conflict resolution.

I've seen a p'ple who've refused to be termed "naive" n are ever growing conscious of the fact dat the Whiteman's 'generousity' is always attached with strings n dat his rapprochement with us is a means to efficiently n effectively divide us.

It is bc of this unquestionable belief in the need for African unity now dat am prepared to pay the highest price to keep Cameroon united,strong,federal and democratic.To this end I'm prepared to risk life n limb.

Le Cameroun resteras unie et indivisible.


DANGO  TUMMA

SAMKA. YOU PACT, ALONE IS NOT GREATER THAN THE PACT PAUL BIYA ENTERED WITH THE FRENCH TO COLONIZE BRITISH SOUTHERN CAMEROONS,
BUT THAT HAVENT WORKED, YOU SEE, I AKED YOU TO READ THE FRONTIER TELEGRAPGH
NARRATION ON THIS SAME SITE ABOUT SOUTHERN CASE BEEN TAKEN TO THE UN SECURITY COUNCIL, THAT SHOWS YOU THAT THE FACTS OF OUR INDEPENDENCE ARE ON OUR SIDE,
ONE WOULD HOPE THAT ANY LEVEL THINKING PERSON WOULD THROW AWY ANY CONFUSION, BUT DOGS LIKE YOU KEEP DISTURBING OUR PEACE IN THIS FORUM ABOUT YOUR OBE CAMEROUN, THAT PROVES THAT YOU ARE AN ILLETRATE, YOU DONT READ THE FACTS AND THE HISTORY OF THE TWO COUNTRIES,
SOO, JUST SHUT THE HELL UP AND GET LOST

Samka

Dango Tumma,

I read the TFT practically everyday and I know all about the Southern Cams cases at our African courts as well as at International instances and I made u to understand that I know about these secessionists mov'ts better than u think.If u're wise enuf u will understand what I mean.Don't forget what Koffi Annan(former SG of the UN an a fellow African),said about Cameroon on a trip he made to our country a few years ago.That he was leaving Cameroon with the knowledge that Cameroon was one and indivisible and advised that we seek solutions to our problems.

You know,u secessionists are the worst breed of sell outs to the West and will be dealt with as such.And what annoys me the more is dat,u are the embodiment of the worst form of unpatriotism not only to your c'ntry but to Africa as a whole.Unfortunately,at a time when a new concept is developing called "African patriotism and solidarity".

There are a panoply of reasons why secession or independence can't work in Cameroon spanning from changing global factors,to an evolving African political landscape but the most pertinent factor is the fact that these secessionists mov'ts are tailored in the fashion of political parties;that is their structure and ideologies are more or less like formal political parties and not like the revolutionary mov'ts we know that brought about the independence to most c'ntries.

Bc a mov't that seeks independence must have a revolutionary bearing(not necessarily armed revolution) but a revolutionary ideology that is well defined and well entrenched.Let's take a glaring example;the fact that nobody knows what type of a political system the "Southern Cams" will be in the event of its independence.Whether it will be socialist,capitalist,a parliamentary democracy or presidentialist system etc.

This is important when fighting for independence bc u need to build an ideal political system an inculcate it into the psychic of your citizenry.This ideal state will then be the fuel that will fire in them their patriotism and hence their commitment to the struggle.Those who carry the mantle of the Southern cams struggle have failed to sit down and brainstorm on such ideals thus making it difficult for many people to see a clear difference between the present political system in Cameroon and the one the secessionists mov'ts are clamouring for(if they have even propounded on any).

People need to know and be sure where they are heading to and after haven been tossed from Nigeria to Cameroon by self seeking politicians who simply want notoriety they have now come of age and will not be taken easily manipulated this town around.

And again,the biggest failure is the panoply of names which you guys have for your presumed territory.Southern Cameroons,Ambazonia,British Southern Cameroons etc.You can claim that a name isn't important at this stage but it is bc a people easily relate with a name and when they they get confused with several names this sends an indication that those who lead them aren't serious people.Remember,how Carlson Anyangwe's use of the name "British Southern Cams" brought alot of controversy and was even rejected by SCNC US?

These are indicators to the fact that a people will follow only when they are able to have a clear cut mental picture of what is in the offer.And this is the duty of the leaders to ensure this.

Dango Tumma,how many of your leaders are secretly being bribed by the so called "La République".Some of them who even were at the inception are now softening their tone and changing positions on a daily basis?You can feel it.Did some of your leaders who were the youths of yesterday,who had scholarships,went to the best schools abroad and came back and had instant employment etc didn't see the need for a Southern Cams at the time? Most of them only realised the need for a Southern Cams after "feasting" in the CNU and the CPDM and later on dumped.

And are u guys very sure that the youths in the "Southern Cams" today care a dime about politics that is completely based on half truths and innuendos and a "Southern Cams state" that is in the imagination of a few sentimental nostalgics?They are more concerned about their standard of living,about jobs,education,about travelling abroad to seek a better life etc etc.And that's why they came out in their numbers(regardless of their origins,linguistic background,political affiliations etc) in open revolt in February and died under gunfire and many thrown into jails for God knows how many years.Those are the real problems they died for.Those are the real patriots.Those are the real martyrs.

Not a clique of emotional wrecks like u guys who want to launch a revolution from the internet and bring about a Southern Cams by wishful thinking.Remember what Albert Mukong told a group of Bamileke students in Paris some years ago,when asked that if the regime were to accept a Federal system what will be his position?He replied,"half a bread is better than none".


A STRONG FEDERAL CAMEROON,FOR A UNITED AFRICA.

DANGO  TUMMA

samka, the pig head french negro.
YOU KNOW NOTHING, YOU READ, BUT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND, YOU JUST WANT TO BELIEF
YOUR OWN STUBBORN ENVYNESS OF SOUTHERN CAMEROONS LAND AND PEOPLE, YOU JUST HATE
SOUTHERN CAMEROONIANS, YOU JUST LOVE TO HATE DECENT FREE PEOPLE, WHY BECAUSE YOU ARE SMALL, YOU ARE LOW, YOU ARE LAZY, YOU ARE AN ILLETRATE. YOU WANT TO HARVEST WHERE YOU NEVER SOWED. THATS WHY YOU AND YOUR FRENH NEGROES COMRADE MUST BE CHASED OUT OF BRITISH SOUTHERN CAMEROON , SO WE CAN LIVE A DIGNIFY LIFE AS THE SOLE OWNERS OF THIS COUNTRY.

AND ONLY FOOLS LIKE YOU WITH NOTHING TO OFFE TO THE WORLD BUT EVIL INTENT READS, FACTS AN TURN TO SAY , YOU DONT
BUY THE FACTS, YOU MAKE YOUR OWN FACTS

I HAVE ASKED YOU JUST ONE QUESTION AND YOU NEVER NSWER, WHEN DID SOUTHERN CAMEROONS BECAME A PROVINCE OF LA REPUBLIQUE DU CAMEROUN? AND HOW CAN
SECESSION ACCORDING TO YOU BE APPLIED IN THE CASE OF SOUTHERN CAMEROONS. WHEN THIS NATION HAD NEVER BEEN A PART OF A REPUBLIQUE DU CAMEROUN.

AND IF YOU CAN SHOWE ANY LEGAL TREATY, THAT MAKE SOUTHERN CAMEROONS PART OF LA REPUBLIQUE DU CAMEROUN?
WITING FOR YOUR ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS

Samka

Mr Dango Tumma,

No,no,no,that's where u're off the mark,completely wrong,.Don't forget that no territorial entity exists on any world map known as the "Southern Cameroons".And that's where we have the justification to consider u as secessionists and will use military force and economic incentives to deal a heavily blow on secessionists.

Quote history the way a muslim quotes the Koran,that's ur business,the "Southern Cams" will never exist without Civil War.We shall not sit by and see a country that was built over the sweat of our grand fathers and whose blood watered the tree of liberty,be dismembered by the writ of a group of nostalgics.We shall not sit by and watch a bunch of traitors to the African union cause engage with Imperialists to distabilise our onward march of consolidating our unity.

You say "WHEN THIS NATION HAD NEVER BEEN A PART OF A REPUBLIQUE DU CAMEROUN".Ok,when coming to the "Southern Cams" for holidays(if u can),use a Southern Cams visa ok?

You guys always quote history to suit ur purposes in the same way Islamic Fundamentalists uplift verses of the Koran and paraphrase it to suit their whims and caprices.The history of Cameroon didn't begin in 1918 or 1945,there was a "kamerun" before that when all our peoples lived in mutual harmony.And that's why secessionists always want to hide and thwart history by giving a skewed information about our history.But the peoples of this beautiful African nation,will not accept that their history be adulterated.

We existed as one people "before" and "under" German Rule.We existed as "Kamerun".There was no Southern Cameroons,no "La République du Cam" until the British and the French Mandates were imposed on us and the c'ntry dismembered,leading to terrible consequences as whole tribes and ethnic groups found themselves on different sides of the divide.Why do u secessionists always try to hide these facts?

Are the Duala people not blood relations to the coastal tribes of the SW province which is in your so called "Southern Cams"?During the annual "Ngondo" festivities,are SW chiefs not invited as a symbol of their blood lineage?Are the traditions of the SW tribes not intertwined and closer to the traditions of the Littoral people?Is it not true that the traditions and cultures of the SW peoples are even totally dissimilar to that of Northwesterners?

Is it not true that Northwesterners and Westerners(Bamileke for example)are blood brothers.A good example;my ethnic group is Tikari and my traditional ruler goes every year to Foumban to pay hommage to the Sultan bc they are blood cousins.There are many more examples like this in Cameroon that proves that we were remain one people.That the social fabric that unites Cameroonians is far deeper than artificial languages and boundaries set up by the British and the French to divide and alienate us.

And it is this Western conspiracy that Secessionists today want to orchestrate and instrumentalise to destroy the social fabric of the "Kamerunian people".We are one and indivisible people and we shall remain so.

Yes,Dango Tumma,am from the NWP and my blood cousins are from the Western prov.not from the SWP.And I think the reason why northwesterners and Southwesterners never see eye to eye(the NW/SW divide) can even be explained by the fact that we are fundamentally unrelated.

Instead of us to come to the full realisation that before the British and French Mandates and Trusteeships,we were living like one people,we go about portraying how eternally shortsighted and numbskull we are.How for centuries we continue to live by the Whiteman's edict.Its a terrific pity.

And my answer to ur feeble-minded question is a simple an equivocal one;before there was a Southern Cameroons and La République du Cameroun,there was a "Kamerun" and before there was a "Kamerun" our peoples lived in our inter-tribal African societies.

A STRONG AND FEDERAL CAMEROON FOR A UNITED AFRICA


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