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September 03, 2007

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P. CHI

I have found this debate very elevated and captivating. In this debate, one can decifer a classic tragic story, a stuff for the kind of literature that will hold even an outside audience spell-bound.

This debate brings to the fore the role of fate and chance occurences; the role of external actors - the UN, UK, France Nigeria and Ahijo with his La Republic; and the tragic flaw of the main actors of Southern Cameroons.

Going though the contributions, one may not fail to decifer that though Southern Cameroon had its flaws, the overbearing nature of the other factors made the tragidy of the Southern Cameroons inevitable. Fate and the role of external actors had prepared the grounds for tragedy. There are no peoples without weaknesses. But ours reduced us to slavery because the atmosphere had been created for that.

I have the opinion that Yaweh is too adamant in her position, abandoning cool reasoning for emotional arguments. The British and the French used the UN as their weapons to pursue their interests at the expense of Southern Cameroons and the facts in the arguments are there for all to see. The argument, pursued byt Britain about financial burden was certainly a hoax to conceal reality and arguments for this abound except for those with a mind-set geared not to see them.

There are plenty of people out there who will stop at nothing to argue a case to legitimatise the annexation of Southern Cameroons. No arguments is good enough for such people with their minds already made up. But that only makes the debate more likely.

Nobody should underlook normative values in international relations. Behind the good intentions of the powers using the UN to give Southern Cameroon independence was concealed power political machinations concealed in moralistic arguments which some of us have fallen prey to. The lapses that followed in the implementation of the fate of Cameroon by the UN and the UK is enough testimony to the fact that moralistic arguments by the powers hold no grounds. Those who adhere to this line like Yaweh simply denounce this without pursuing facts to support their case while demanding proves and facts from others. This is reminiscent of the arguments of Yaounde, hiding its misdeeds by demanding proofs in a scare tactic.

It is our duty to unravel the greedy national interest calculations that defined the actions of the powers and push our case before the UN. While the above mentioned powers have used the UN as their weapon to destroy the fate of Southern Cameroonians, it is our duty to use the UN and other international institutions and the press including other normative avenues to push our case. The facts are there, concealed by some even amongst us, but they can only do so if we sleep on our brains. What i have seen these days is that Southern Camerooninas have no intentions to sleep on their brains.

paulo laurent

YOU PEOPLE ARE BEATING ABOUT THE BUSH ASKING WHY AHIDJO DID THIS, AND THAT
ASKING WHY PAUL MBIYA DID THIS AND THAT TO
DESCOURAGE THE INDEPENDENCE OF BRITISH SOUTHERN CAMEROONS. BUT ONE THING WE AFRICANS HATE MOST IS PROFOUND TRUTH ABAOUT HUMAN NATURE. ESPECIALLY, PRIMITIVE-ILLETRATE AND POWERFUL PEOPLE AS AHIDJO, PAUL MBIYA ET ALL. ONLY ONE THING MOTIVATES THEM TO SEE THIS BEAUTIFULL COUNTRY AS BRITISH SOUTHERN CAMEROONS REMAINS STATELESS, ITS CALLED
(HATRED)
AHIJO HATES SOUTHERN CAMEROONIANS, SOO TOO IS PAUL MBIYA, THEIRONLY DIFFERENCE IS AHIDJO NEVER SAY IT PUBLICLY BUT MBIYA SAYS IT PUBLICLY, IN 2007
HE PLAIN SAID, HIS MISSION IS WIPPED OUT ANY ANGLOSAXON IDENTITY IN THE CAMEROONS. NOW HERE A PRESIDENT SAYS THAT.

SOME ONE WHOSE CONTROLLING THE LIFES OF OVER 7M AFRICANS WHOM HE HATES, WHO HE HAD MADE FOREIGMERS ON THEIR OWN GOD GIVEN LAND , MBIYA WHO HAD MASSED MILITARY, POLICE AND GERDAMES IN EVERY CORNER OF BSC , AS IF IS WAR ZONE.
SOO, BY OPPRESSING BSC, THIS GIVES THEM THE EASINESS OF FRESH AIR TO EXPLOIT ALL THE MINEARLS AND OIL RESOURCES FOR THEIR OWN WHIELE THESE 7M AFRICANS DIE IN HUNGER AND DESTITUTE, NOT THAT THESE VICTIMS ARE UN EDUCATED, INFACT THE OPPOSITE THEY ARE THE MOST EDUCATED IN THE 2 CAMEROONS,
BUT ,BUT ONLY WITH THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING WEAPONS , GUNS AND TANKS AND MEN READY TRAINED TO KILL BY THE SLITTEST
SWAY.

DANGO  TUMMA

sj
i disagree with you on your statement that
france is the new colnial master, the new
colonial master who is illegally occupying southern camerona is LA REPUBLIQUE DU CAMEROUN, FRANCE IS NOT, AND SOUTHERN CAMEROONS HAVENEVER SIGNED ANY AGREEMENT WITH THE FRENCH, AS WELL AS LA REPUBLIQUE DU CAMEROUN, EVEN A TREATY OF UNION BETWEEN THE 2 COUNTRIES HAVE NEVER BEEN SIGNED, SOO, DONT JUMP THE BRIDGES IF FRANCE TAKE IT UPON ITSELF TO INVDE SOUTHERN CAMEROOONS ALONG WITH ITS COLONY, AND ASERTTS ITSELF AS A NEW COLONIAL MASTER, THATS ITS OWN FALSEHOOD. BUT THE STATEMENT I MADE ABOVE STANDS, AND RIGH NOW, ALL WE NEED IS TO KICK HE BLCK FRENCH NEGROES OFF OUR LAND , SOO WE CAN REBUILD IT OUR WAY FOR OUR SELVES.

DANGO  TUMMA

WE CAN DEBATE WHAT HAPPENED WITH OUR NOT HAVING OUR INDEPENDENCE YESTER YARS.

UNTILL THY KINGDOM COME, BUT WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED TO DO IS TO DO THE RIGHT THING

GET FRENCH CAMEROUN GOVERNTMENT AND MILKITARY OUT OF SOUTHERN CAMEROONS. ITS NOT THEIR LAND, THERE DO NOT BELONG THERE, THEY WEE NEVER INVITED.

CHI DAVID CHE


i really appreciate your to make youths like us learn the history of our forefathers. may GOD BLESS YOU .

A P Geofrey

Nice article.All I hope is that we can learn from our historical mistakes and make a better futuer for our children and our children's children. But this is something the king and it's present regime doesn't think of. In fact they don't even think of anything.

Hycenth Asah

The truth is we need a shepherd or an icon that will direct,control and rule over anglophone cameroonians to the right path which is yet to come but we do have faith that one day it must come to past,the future of anglophone cameroonians lies the hands of anglophone cameroonians nobody will do it for us we are the ones to do it for our selves.In 1960 when the UN pass out the plebiscite to be held in southern cameroon,The future of the southern cameroonians by then was in their hands but they did nothing for example if your father ask you to jump into a deep blue sea or hell fire and you know that these two options are just to kill you the only solution here is to resist from these two options.That is southern cameroonians should not have voted on 11 febuary 1961 in the first place,they should have carry out continoues peaceful protest asking for their independence in towns like buea,victoria,bamenda,kumba,nkambe,manfe,kumbo and wum.Because the motive behind the UN by then was to give to the people what they want,when theses protest was provern seriouse and they fail to vote on the plebiscite day,reports must reach the UN that the people have refuse to vote and they are asking for their independence by so doing the UN would have had no other choice rather than to give their hearts desire.Our grand fathers put us in this mess that we are passing through today.

dango tuman

Hey my people. What to argue. Only if we all
agree with bro Louis mbua that the blame
lie with EAst cameroun president for jumping
the gun.
1 ahidjo was president of Southern cameroons
he had no authority over another country. To pass decrees
2.There was never a signed treaty.agreement etc
between the two states. Since1961 till 2015.
3.paul biya and ahijo simply had used force
of military to violate our country and occupy it
and time goes on biya keep passinh more decrees
like ahijo 1972 decree dividing our country into
north west and south west provinces of his own country.
then biya after 30 years decree again to north west and south west regipn of his own country. The message is
clear. We have seized your country what can
you do. Its not as if the two people doesnt know
what tbey have done. They know pretty well.
The ball is now on our court. How do we get back
our country. Talk os cheap.
we should talk to irretians and ask them hkw they did it from ethiopia. We need force to block them from caming
into oir country. Block them from bafousam into
bamenda. From douala mungo into tiko from mbanga onto kumba we need an army.after we start. We will get
support. Since we are right and they are wrong.

dango tuman

Dear. Brothers
i accept fully what SJ said. Ie there is no unification
for there to be such both parties must sign a treaty.
the president of another. Who by the way have no
power on another country simple move in his
army and annex southern cameroons.
at a time when the pepple are still debating the
modality of the unification. And then start passing
orders.by orders. Seperating our country to
two northwest and south west not of southern
cameroons instead of his own country ie cameroun.
soo. This clearly show you the intent
its not late we have to bond together and
creat parallel institutions and using cameroum
Instotutions. .like creating Native authority
public works deparent. Energy and power.
land management. Fire and police. Natoonal guard
justoce and court . Education and traiming.
We dont have to be afraid. Its our lanf
Only us together can build it

dango  tumma

One thing i ve noticed every simgle time any one criticise
Mr Dibissy
For his Apologetic comments regarding this annexation and volonialization of our country.Southern cameroons by Cameroun. He scrashes off your comments. But its not about individuals. Its about a country and the disregard of
The internation laws thst govern nations.I E UN.
Period. any other arguement falls flat on its face
No treay of unification equals to annexation period

which equals to colonialism
Cameroun becaming the colomial master of the

state of Southern cameroons. Ie lost of sovereignty.
Where its 50 years or 100 years no one can change
history. .Fact is cameroun would have to do the
right thing. Move back to its borders at its independence.
perood. No name calling. Funcha. Endelley .mengot.jia
etc. That the bottom line and thats where uncurrupted
s.cameroonians true patriots must begin their narration.

of this terrible fascist colonial act that we face. To
free our country from. Since no body will free us
but ourselves in 1000 years.

dango  tumma

Do not blame any one. I see people blaming britain. UN Foncja. As i said. We start from the treaty. In 2014 biya
have no right to be in buea. We have no business focusing
on boko haram. Thatd nigeria and Camerouns bussiness.
No treaty is annexation and colonialism perood every
where in the world this law applies. Crimea voted to re unite
with Russia. They signed a treaty of reunification

Republique could have had that done if we willfully accepted
to unite with that country. And in such a treaty .there terms of the union. If we feel not comfortable. At any time we
are free to abrogate it..soo poeple stop this story tellingike
line and think like men/ women of substance

Eric Shu

These are extremely brilliant, scholarly and historically enlightening articles and debates. It is interesting that these debates took place almost a decade ago, and then stopped. Now is the time to revisit the discourse ...now that the "Federalism" or "Independence" questions have resurfaced. More Southern Cameroonians need to be educated about this rich historical miscarriage of justice, colossal conspiracy and colonial neglect that led to the misguided union into the contraption that is today known as the "Republic of Cameroon". How can these debates be taken forward? And more importantly, how can these facts be chronologically constituted and simplified so that the anglophone Cameroonian on the street can better appreciate the "legitimacy" of this present "struggle" for autonomy and self-determination?

We need to broaden the space for this debate and take it to the "village square" where younger scholars and historians can learn from it like I have. I don't have the modalities articulated, but I just think this platform is too narrow for this important discourse. A lot of issues have been thrown up here, and this has stimulated my mind to do my own research as to what really happened before the plebiscite; what was Ahidjo's LRC like before the "(re)unification"? Why did the Northern and Southern Cameroonians vote differently during the plebiscite? What really happened at Foumban and what is Biya doing today with the "Anglophone" leaders of SC that amounts to "history repeating itself"? Now, 55 years after the Plebiscite, what lessons have SC leaders learnt and what will they do differently in the face of another Referendum for Federalism?

I must once again commend the above scholars who have ignited new perspectives in my thinking and emboldened my resolve to contribute meaningfully to this "struggle"...motivated not as much by my own sense of personal liberation and self-preservation as to the fact that posterity and history will judge our generation for our actions or inaction, (like we have done here to our founding fathers) and to what extent these will impact on the generations yet unborn...that when we had the opportunity to change the course of history and a second chance to right the wrongs of our fathers, we did not act with total resolve to restore the dignity of a disinherited sovereign entity once known as "Southern Cameroons".

I salute you all...and let the discussions resume, howbeit, in the context of the current struggle for Federalism or Independence for Anglophone (Southern) Cameroon.

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